Sunday, December 13, 2009

Blair ‘would have gone to war without Iraqi WMD’

The last sentence;
“A senior Conservative MP said that evidence to the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war this week proved that the former Prime Minister was aware that new intelligence had established Saddam had no workable WMD missiles.”

“No worlable WMD missiles”. What’s that mean? Wait until they are workable, “usable”! We were at a state of war with Iraq. The UN, Bush or Blair needed no authorization to attack Iraq and remove Saddam.

Tony Blair would still have led the country to war in Iraq even if he had known that it had no weapons of mass destruction.

The former Prime Minister has confessed that he would have had to use different arguments to justify toppling Saddam Hussein. But he says in an interview to be broadcast tomorrow morning that he would still have taken steps to remove the Iraqi dictator from power.

He also put the decision to go to war in Iraq in the context of a wider battle over Islam. He said: “I happen to think that there is a major struggle going on all over the world, really, which is about Islam and what is happening within Islam.” He said that this struggle had a “long way to go”.

At the time of the conflict Mr Blair, who is to be questioned by the Iraq inquiry early next year, based his decision to go to war on evidence that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

He gives an indication of his motives in an interview with the former daytime host Fern Britton, to be screened on BBC One. Mr Blair, who converted to Roman Catholicism when he left office two and a half years ago, denied that his religious faith played a direct part in his decision to go to war. But his faith gave him the strength to hold to the decision and supported him during “the loneliness of decision-maker”.

He said it was the “threat” that Saddam presented to the region that was uppermost in his mind. The development of weapons of mass destruction was one aspect of that threat.

Mr Blair said that there had been 12 years of the United Nations going “to and fro” on the subject, and he noted that Saddam had used chemical weapons on his own people.

Asked by Britton if he would still have gone on had he known there were no weapons of mass destruction, he said: “I would still have thought it right to remove him.”

Parents of some of the servicemen who have died have refused to shake his hand and accused him of being a war criminal with blood on his hands.

Mr Blair said that he was prepared to carry that responsibility. “There’s no point in going into a situation of conflict and not understanding there is going to be a price paid.”

The former Prime Minister, who now spends much of his time in the Middle East, working as an envoy for the Quartet of the US, Russia, the UN and the EU, said that it was difficult to judge yet whether the decision to go to war had been helpful or not.

This week the head of MI6 said that Saddam’s Iraq was one of a number of countries where Britain would have liked regime change. Sir John Sawers, who was at the time Mr Blair’s private secretary for foreign affairs, told the Iraq inquiry that discussions had taken place in 2001 - two years before the invasion - on “political” actions that could help to undermine the Baathist regime.

However, Sir John insisted that there had been no talk at that stage in Whitehall of military action in Iraq. He said that the approach adopted was based on the methods that had led to the ousting of Slobodan Milosevic in Serbia. Among the proposals considered was support for opposition groups and indicting Saddam for war crimes that he had committed during Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990.

“I think there are a lot of countries around the world where we would like to see a change of regime. That doesn’t mean one pursues active policies in that direction,” he said.

It was claimed last night that Mr Blair misled MPs by insisting that Britain was at risk from Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction before ordering the invasion. A senior Conservative MP said that evidence to the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war this week proved that the former Prime Minister was aware that new intelligence had established Saddam had no workable WMD missiles.

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Saddam Hussein, Terrorists & WMD in Iraq

Saddam Hussein, Terrorists & WMD in Iraq

http://newsbusters.org/node/8668

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Here is an update to The Case For Invading Iraq And Removing Saddam Hussein From Power.

Hat Tip to Chris DonohoeSua Sponte 75, and (**) for some of the descriptions & links.

I. Saddam was known to have WMD and used it in at least 3 separate situations.

  1. S. Hussein used Chemical weapons in the Iran-Iraq War [Wikipedia]
  2. Hussein used Chemical weapons vs. the Kurds in N. Iraq [phrusa.org] Also see this [Free Republic]
  3. S. Hussein used Chemical weapons against the Sunnis in S. Iraq [Human Rights Watch]
  4. Statements to the effect that Iraq had or was seeking WMD made by: President Clinton, Madeline Albright, Sandy BergerRep. Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Carl Levin, V.P. Al Gore.  Also see this for many of the same or similar remarks [Snopes & acsa.net]
  5. Letter to Pres. Clinton, signed by: Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, & others 10-09-1998. [Snopes]
  6. Letter to Pres. Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham & others, Dec, 5, 2001.  [Snopes]

II. There is a long list of WMD, delivery systems, and banned conventional weapons found in Iraq

  1. Various WMD/Weapons [WorldNet Daily]
  2. Uranium in Iraq [Newsmax]
  3. Uranium Enrichment Program [Newsmax]
  4. Jordan - Foiled WMD Attack [MSNBC]
  5. Sarin & Mustard Gas [Foxnews]
  6. WMD hidden in Syria [Newsmax]
  7. Iraqi commander confirms Iraq had WMD [American Thinker]
  8. MiGs found buried in the sand [BBC]
  9. Banned Missiles found [Foxnews]
  10. Still More Banned Weapons found [WorldNet Daily]
  11. Still More Banned Weapons found (part 2) [WorldNet Daily]
  12. More WMD found in Iraq ! [Foxnews]
  13. Unexamined Bunkers that may contain WMD [NY Sun]
  14. UN Inspectors think WMD moved to Syria [World Tribune]
  15. WMD Moved to Syria/Lebanon [WorldNet Daily]
  16. Suspected ties between Saddam and the 2001 Anthrax ‘Attacks’
  17. Iraqi Dissident Talks About WMD Moved to Syria [Free Republic]
  18. Iraq Sulfur Mustard Gas Chemical Weapons Have High Quality After 12 years of Storage
  19. Chemical Material Hidden Underground [Free Republic]
  20. Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device [Free Republic]
  21. Request For 500 KG Of SODIUM CYANIDE A Precursor For A Chemical Weapon [Free Republic]
  22. Plan To Produce Mobile Laboratories [Free Republic]
  23. Procurement of 50,000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT [Free Republic]
  24. Secret Nuclear Project [Free Republic]
  25. Chemical Gear for The Chemical Group [Free Republic]
  26. Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active [Free Republic]
  27. Saddam Met with his Nuclear Group IN 2002 [Free Republic]

III. Saddam Hussein had a History of Aggression, attacking 5 other nations.

  1. Attacked Iran Iran-Iraq War [Wikipedia]
  2. Attacked Kuwait Gulf War [Wikipedia]
  3. Attacked Saudi Arabia Gulf War - previous to Desert Storm [Wikipedia]
  4. Attacked Israel Gulf War - previous to Desert Storm [Wikipedia]
  5. Attacked Bahrain Gulf War - previous to Desert Storm [CNN]

IV. Terrorists have been found in Iraq & there were numerous associations between Iraq & terrorists

  1. Abu Nidal (Planned Rome Airport Machine Gun Massacre) [National Review]
  2. Abu Abbas (Planned Achilia Lauro Hijacking) [CNN]
  3. Terrorist Training Camp Found in Iraq [Foxnews]
  4. Ayman al-Zawahiri (Al Quaida affiliated terrorist in Iraq) [CNN]
  5. Former Iraqi Prime Minister admits Saddam ties with terrorists [Newsmax]
  6. Iraq & Terrorists collaborated [NY Sun]
  7. Al-Zarqawi harbored/protected by Saddam’s regime [Kaleejtimes.com]
  8. Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started [Free Republic]
  9. Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 [Free Republic]
  10. Saddam Regime Recruits Suicide Terrorists to Hit US Interests [Free Republic]
  11. Saddam Orders The Arab Feedayeen Terrorists To Be Treated The Same As Iraqi Soldiers [Free Republic]
  12. Iraqi Intelligence To Train Arab Feedayeen Terrorists In the Year 2000 [Free Republic]
  13. Saddam Regime Training and Using Foreign Arab Terrorists As Suicide Bombers [Free Republic]
  14. Afghani Taliban Consul Spoke of a Relationship Between Iraq and Bin Laden [Free Republic]
  15. Saddam Ordered 25,000 Dollars for Each Suicide Terrorist Against Israel [Free Republic]
  16. Iraqi Intelligence Asks Hamas To Conduct Terrorist Attacks Against The US [Free Republic]
  17. Saddam’s Terror Training Camps [Weekly Standard]
  18. Interview of Sabah Kodada [PBS]
  19. Salman Pak / Al Salman [GlobalSecurity.org]
  20. Al-Qaida running new terror camp, say Kurds [Guardian]
  21. Salman Pak - Iraq’s Own Terrorist Training Camp

V. Other Casus Belli

  1. Radar tracking & SA missiles fired upon “No Fly Zone” Aircraft - a violation of Gulf War surrender terms [cdi.org]
  2. Assassination attempt on former President George Bush, Sr. [Washington Post]

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